Making Light Entries: The Master List
Posted by Abi on Saturday 3 May 2008 at 20:19
Below is an initial list of postings that have been active recently, to the best of my memory. I have noted caches that I have URLs for, kindly provided by people in these threads. I am digging through my own caches. If you have better caches of data, please send them to me (abi at the domain we're on), Patrick, and Teresa (their initials at panix.com). We will update this as we go.
(Why, yes, there is a spreadsheet!)
Making Light
| Post No |
Date |
Title |
Highest Known No |
Latest Complete Comment |
Savior |
| | April Archives (all April posts) | | | Doctor Science |
| 010186 | Apr-27 | Where do people find the time? | 251 | #251 ::: Serge ::: (view all by) ::: May 02, 03:54 PM: | Nick Fagerlund |
| 010184 | Apr-27 | Open thread 106 | 11 | | Abi has the email notifications |
| 010178 | Apr-26 | Eric Clapton, White Power enthusiast | 73 | #10 ::: will shetterly ::: (view all by) ::: April 26, 11:18 PM: | Doctor Science |
| 010177 | Apr-26 | Teresa in the Observer | 54 | #13 ::: Angelle ::: (view all by) ::: April 26, 10:53 PM: | Doctor Science |
| 010176 | Apr-26 | Feeling the Heat | 26 | | |
| 010175 | Apr-26 | SFWA election results | 45 | #45 ::: Dave Bell ::: (view all by) ::: April 30, 02:51 AM: | Doctor Science |
| 010174 | Apr-25 | Indistinguishable from parody | 186 | #186 ::: Clifton Royston ::: (view all by) ::: May 02, 06:52 PM: | Doctor Science |
| 010173 | Apr-24 | The Rather Difficult Font Game | 123 | #123 ::: David Goldfarb ::: (view all by) ::: April 29, 06:46 AM: | Doctor Science |
| 010168 | Apr-23 | Live in San Francisco, it's TNH! | 18 | #18 ::: pat greene ::: (view all by) ::: April 24, 06:54 PM: | Doctor Science |
| 010167 | Apr-22 | NBC News calls Penn for Hillary | 124 | #124 ::: Matthew Austern ::: (view all by) ::: April 28, 11:44 PM: | Doctor Science |
| 010157 | Apr-17 | Little Brother | 180 | #180 ::: Bruce Cohen (SpeakerToManagers) ::: (view all by) ::: April 30, 06:13 AM: | Doctor Science |
| 010154 | Apr-16 | Newsweek invents an alarming trend | 245 | #235 ::: Ginger ::: (view all by) ::: April 29, 05:02 PM: | Doctor Science |
| 010151 | Apr-16 | Housekeeping | 7 | #7 ::: paul ::: (view all by) ::: April 17, 03:23 PM: | Doctor Science |
| 010146 | Apr-14 | Open thread 105 | 906 | #215 ::: Bruce Cohen (SpeakerToManagers) ::: (view all by) ::: April 18, 01:48 AM: | Doctor Science |
| 010143 | Apr-13 | Could lead to goose-stepping | 469 | #150 ::: Lee ::: (view all by) ::: April 15, 02:18 AM: | Doctor Science |
| 010142 | Apr-13 | Bury my acorns at Wounded Knee | 87 | #87 ::: Stefan Jones ::: (view all by) ::: April 21, 2008, 12:24 AM: | Abi |
| 010134 | Apr-12 | A book by its cover | 37 | #37 ::: Claire ::: (view all by) ::: April 19, 2008, 11:34 PM: | Abi |
| 010133 | Apr-11 | Future of Publishing, Part 5,271,009 | 32 | #32 ::: Dave Bell ::: (view all by) ::: April 17, 2008, 09:17 AM: | Abi |
| 010129 | Apr-09 | Don't Miss the Deadline | 25 | #25 ::: Greg London ::: (view all by) ::: April 11, 2008, 11:13 PM: | Abi |
| 010125 | Apr-06 | Heads they win; tails we lose | 320 | 175 | Carol Witt |
| 010123 | Apr-06 | Some must employ the scythe | 126 | #126 ::: abi ::: (view all by) ::: April 15, 2008, 03:53 PM: | Abi |
| 010115 | Apr-04 | Pity the Times | 167 | #167 ::: Terry Karney ::: (view all by) ::: April 16, 2008, 12:22 PM: | Abi |
| 010113 | Apr-04 | Forty years gone | 70 | #70 ::: rea ::: (view all by) ::: April 08, 2008, 07:20 PM: | Abi |
| 010108 | Apr-01 | Amsterdam | 70 | #70 ::: Bill Higgins finds more spam ::: (view all by) ::: April 25, 2008, 08:48 AM: | Abi |
| | March Archives (all March posts) | | | Doctor Science |
| 010104 | Mar-31 | Deep Value | 434 | 165 | Carol Witt |
| 010103 | Mar-30 | The photograph that terrorized London | 204 | 203 | Carol Witt |
| 010097 | Mar-28 | Open thread 104 | 931 | 239 | Carol Witt |
| 010101 | Mar-28 | Divided by common errors | 34 | #34 ::: Edward Oleander ::: (view all by) ::: April 05, 2008, 01:39 AM: | Abi |
| 010083 | Mar-20 | Going to need a bigger laser | 174 | #174 ::: Paul A. ::: (view all by) ::: March 31, 2008, 08:08 PM: | Abi |
| 010077 | Mar-18 | Arthur C. Clarke, 1917-2008 | 177 | #177 ::: Dave Bell ::: (view all by) ::: April 06, 2008, 08:14 PM: | Abi |
| 010069 | Mar-16 | Just do it | 38 | #38 ::: Fragano Ledgister ::: (view all by) ::: April 10, 2008, 06:36 AM: | Abi |
| 010066 | Mar-16 | Literary Divination, A Parlour Game | 106 | #106 ::: heresiarch sees, um, spam? ::: (view all by) ::: March 26, 2008, 03:25 AM: | abi |
| 010046 | Mar-13 | Open thread 103 | 936 | 222 | Carol Witt |
| 010044 | Mar-11 | Phase one: collect underpants | 265 | #265 ::: Laurie ::: (view all by) ::: April 21, 2008, 08:18 AM: | Abi |
| 010028 | Mar-04 | Greyhawk's flags at half-staff | 253 | 200 | Carol Witt |
| 010025 | Mar-03 | Can you read this? | 53 | #53 ::: Robert N Stephenson ::: (view all by) ::: March 07, 2008, 08:21 PM: | Abi |
| 010012 | Mar-03 | All come singing | 69 | #69 ::: The Constructivist ::: (view all by) ::: March 21, 2008, 04:37 PM: | Abi |
| 007399 | | Darwin fish found | 386 | 204 | |
| 005451 | | Worldcongoing | 326 | 183 | |
| 009050 | | Abi Sutherland, on Catz | 574 | 293 | |
Particles
Teresa has been looking at this and will report
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Nielsenhayden.com
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Comments and Trackbacks
I don't know nuthin' 'bout real computing, I don't even know what was being asked, but on the outside chance I've performed some idiot savant miracle,
first I went to Making Light, and yes there was a blank page.
Next I went to google.com and did a search for "Making Light."
Then I clicked on the cache [cache of http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/ as retrieved on May 1, 2008 18:41:24 GMT.] for it http://209.85.207.104/search?q=cache:bXNffxgXZ5MJ:nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/+Making+LIght:&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us&client=firefox-a
In case you think it's important and can't get the same result, I copied the HTML and pasted it into a WORD doc, 25pp. long.
I've saved it, too. If it's needed, let me know and we can figure our how to make the handoff.
I really hope this helps. Oh, be sure to AV scan whatever you're sent, just to be on the safe side.
Peace.
I wrote: "If it's needed, let me know and we can figure our how to make the handoff."
posting blog page where you can leave message.
http://jellypizza.blogspot.com/
also, i believe i may have an email address for you but won't use it unless you request.
Happy day...
ws
I have copies of every post since "Forty years gone" in my RSS reader, but none of the comments. If that's any help, give me a shout at this email addy.
We're pretty much OK for posts. It's the comments that we're missing, because Google caching cuts off after a while.
Also, if you have been commenting on older posts (like the Darwin fish post, which had a recent spate of activity), flag them so at least I know what we're missing.
I'm collecting a few things here and there, and will update the list soon.
Mailed Open Thread 105 to Patrick at Panix. Goes up to 27 April at 12:20 AM.
PNH's spam traps sometimes lose my mail, so look for it. I sent it from my higgins2k at gmail dot com account.
I've just sent a copy of Feeling the Heat that goes up to 31 comments.
just to clarify what i'm looking for -- because i do appear to have google caches of posts back to february 28 : all you want is comments, and only comments not already covered in the spreadsheet?
sorry for sounding so stupid, but ... i must say I also have no idea of how to send you whatever I do find. so i'll let you know if i find something and then you can tell me.
Ideally, saving the page as HTML or saving the complete page (use the File/Save menu on your browser and be expansive).
Tell us what you've got, zip them, and send them to Patrick, Teresa and me.
Thanks
Ideally, saving the page as HTML or saving the complete page (use the File/Save menu on your browser and be expansive).
Tell us what you've got, zip them, and send them to Patrick, Teresa and me.
Do you want me to shoot you copies of the stuff I mentioned in the techie thread?
let me try that again.
Abi, you said "Tell us what you've got, zip them, and send them to Patrick, Teresa and me."
I've got s/i/g/n/a/l/ files, I've posted a list in the Techie thread. Do you want me to spam all three of you with what I have, or should I await further instructions?
I'm guessing/hoping that you've already been googling:
'' site:http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/ "Comments posted to Making Light by" ''
That lists 624 hits which seem to be the View-All-By pages. Definitely a program is called for....
I'm a lurker with several ML pages open in tabs. The only one you seem to need is the complete "Deep Value", so I've just saved a copy of the page with all 434 comments. I'll try to zip and email in a few minutes. I also have 72 comments on my version of "Amsterdam" (versus 70 in the spreadsheet), but it looks like the last 4 are spam. I haven't checked my cache yet.
I'm subscribed to a few threads via Google Reader, so I don't think I have cached pages, but I have the text of the comments themselves. I might have some of the more recent comments (I see 187 on Little Brother; 105 on Theresa in the Observer, etc.) Please let me know via email if there's something I can do to help.
Well, I saved a Google cache of my own comments from 09.27.06 to 04.28.08, but I'm set up so that the browser cache on my PC is wiped every time I exit the browser.
As it happens, I made a new comment on "Grease Monkey" last night -- nothing it would be too hard to reconstruct, just a note that Tim Eldred is putting new material up on the book's site.
If anyone wants to get ambitious, here's a list of names of ML posters who I have _not_ yet collected.
(Note: If your name isn't on this list, don't assume that I _do_ have it.)
A. J. Luxton
A.R.Yngve
Adam Ek
Adrian Smith
ajay
Alter S. Reiss
Ame
Andrew Plotkin
Andrhia
Andy Brazil
Anna the Piper
Aquila
Arwel Parry
Ben Morris
beth meacham
bryan
Carol
Ccnsul
CHip
Chris
Clan
Connie H.
CosmicDog
DavidS
dcb
Debbie
Dena Shunra
Dirk
Doctor Science
don delny
Earl Cooley III
EClaire
Edward Oleander
eric
ethan
Evan Simpson
Farah
fidelio
Francis D
Garrett Fitzgerald
geekosaur
Glenn Hauman
Graydon
Greg London
harthad
individualfrog
Ingvar M
IWH
j h woodyatt
Jakob
Jason McIntosh
Jen Roth
Jennifer Barber
Jo Walton
Joe Eaton
Joel Polowin
John L
John Chu
John Thornton
Jp
Julie L.
Kate Nepveu
Kayjayoh
Ken Houghton
Ken MacLeod
Kevin Riggle
Kimberley Verburg
Kip W
Laina
Lawrence Watt-Evans
Leah Miller
Leva Cygnet
Linkmeister
Lizzy L
lorax
Madeline F
Marie Brennan
Mark D.
Marna Nightingale
Martin Wisse
mary
Mary Dell
Matt Austern
Matt McIrvin
Matt Stevens
Matthew Austern
Max Kaehn
Melody
Michael I
Michael Walsh
Michael Roberts
Michael Weholt
Michelle
Morry
Mycroft W
mythago
Nancy Lebovitz
Naomi Libicki
NC Hanger
Neil Willcox
Niall McAuley
Nick Caldeorn
Nicole J. LeBoeuf-Little
pat greene
Paul A.
Paul
Pedantic Peasant
Per Chr. J.
R. M. Koske
Ralph Giles
Randolph Fritz
Richard Klin
Rikibeth
rm
Rob Hansen
RobW
Ronit
Rozasharn
Russell Letson
Sarah
Scott Taylor
Scott H
Scott Janssens
Scraps
sherrold
Sica
sm
Soon Lee
Stephen Frug
Steve Taylor
Steve Buchheit
Suin
Summer Storms
Susan Kitchens
Susan
Sylvia
Tazistan Jen
Tim O'Brien
TomB
Tony Zbaraschuk
Velma
VictorS
will shetterly
Xopher
At this point, I'm having trouble figuring out what names still need to be googled for comments... perhaps an updatable list somewhere? Specifically, it would be really nice to have "last update" entries for the member-to-google lists, and for the global "fixing the threads" lists above.
More specifically, it would be nice to have a list of names with "have their comments up to foo/bar/08", and perhaps a separate list "names that need scanning". Nice, but iduno how practical....
EXTREMELY IMPORTANT: The MSN search cache appears to be current and complete. I have tried several lookups and have found entries in the hundreds up to April 30th. That includes several on the chart. 906 comments in Open Thread 105, all there. USE MSN SEARCH.
Comments and Trackbacks
I don't know nuthin' 'bout real computing, I don't even know what was being asked, but on the outside chance I've performed some idiot savant miracle,
first I went to Making Light, and yes there was a blank page.
Next I went to google.com and did a search for "Making Light."
Then I clicked on the cache [cache of http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/ as retrieved on May 1, 2008 18:41:24 GMT.] for it http://209.85.207.104/search?q=cache:bXNffxgXZ5MJ:nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/+Making+LIght:&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us&client=firefox-a
In case you think it's important and can't get the same result, I copied the HTML and pasted it into a WORD doc, 25pp. long.
I've saved it, too. If it's needed, let me know and we can figure our how to make the handoff.
I really hope this helps. Oh, be sure to AV scan whatever you're sent, just to be on the safe side.
Peace.
I wrote: "If it's needed, let me know and we can figure our how to make the handoff."
posting blog page where you can leave message.
http://jellypizza.blogspot.com/
also, i believe i may have an email address for you but won't use it unless you request.
Happy day...
ws
I have copies of every post since "Forty years gone" in my RSS reader, but none of the comments. If that's any help, give me a shout at this email addy.
We're pretty much OK for posts. It's the comments that we're missing, because Google caching cuts off after a while.
Also, if you have been commenting on older posts (like the Darwin fish post, which had a recent spate of activity), flag them so at least I know what we're missing.
I'm collecting a few things here and there, and will update the list soon.
Mailed Open Thread 105 to Patrick at Panix. Goes up to 27 April at 12:20 AM.
PNH's spam traps sometimes lose my mail, so look for it. I sent it from my higgins2k at gmail dot com account.
I've just sent a copy of Feeling the Heat that goes up to 31 comments.
just to clarify what i'm looking for -- because i do appear to have google caches of posts back to february 28 : all you want is comments, and only comments not already covered in the spreadsheet?
sorry for sounding so stupid, but ... i must say I also have no idea of how to send you whatever I do find. so i'll let you know if i find something and then you can tell me.
Ideally, saving the page as HTML or saving the complete page (use the File/Save menu on your browser and be expansive).
Tell us what you've got, zip them, and send them to Patrick, Teresa and me.
Thanks
Ideally, saving the page as HTML or saving the complete page (use the File/Save menu on your browser and be expansive).
Tell us what you've got, zip them, and send them to Patrick, Teresa and me.
Do you want me to shoot you copies of the stuff I mentioned in the techie thread?
let me try that again.
Abi, you said "Tell us what you've got, zip them, and send them to Patrick, Teresa and me."
I've got s/i/g/n/a/l/ files, I've posted a list in the Techie thread. Do you want me to spam all three of you with what I have, or should I await further instructions?
I'm guessing/hoping that you've already been googling:
'' site:http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/ "Comments posted to Making Light by" ''
That lists 624 hits which seem to be the View-All-By pages. Definitely a program is called for....
I'm a lurker with several ML pages open in tabs. The only one you seem to need is the complete "Deep Value", so I've just saved a copy of the page with all 434 comments. I'll try to zip and email in a few minutes. I also have 72 comments on my version of "Amsterdam" (versus 70 in the spreadsheet), but it looks like the last 4 are spam. I haven't checked my cache yet.
Earlier I posted Google Reader for blog posts, but it also works for comments (as long as someone, somewhere decided to track them in Google Reader). They can be seen at links such as the following, where ######.xml indicates the post number and n=# is the number of comments to show (I chose an arbitrarily high one):
http://www.google.com/reader/atom/feed/http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/010186.xml?n=3000
There were a few that weren't tracked at all, and the order isn't necessarily right, but it's pretty comprehensive. I gathered all the xml files and uploaded them to my web site in a zipped folder.
http://azureabstraction.com/temp/making_light.zip
I'm subscribed to a few threads via Google Reader, so I don't think I have cached pages, but I have the text of the comments themselves. I might have some of the more recent comments (I see 187 on Little Brother; 105 on Theresa in the Observer, etc.) Please let me know via email if there's something I can do to help.
Well, I saved a Google cache of my own comments from 09.27.06 to 04.28.08, but I'm set up so that the browser cache on my PC is wiped every time I exit the browser.
I've had some luck on the older posts by checking the Internet Archive.
Darwin Fish post to Comment #223
http://web.archive.org/web/20070804233554/http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/007399.html
Worldcongoing Post to Comment #326
http://web.archive.org/web/20070824164007/http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/005451.html
I can't get to the IA cache of "Abi Sutherland on Catz" but the URL is
http://web.archive.org/web/20070609134809/http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/009050.html
As it happens, I made a new comment on "Grease Monkey" last night -- nothing it would be too hard to reconstruct, just a note that Tim Eldred is putting new material up on the book's site.
If anyone wants to get ambitious, here's a list of names of ML posters who I have _not_ yet collected.
(Note: If your name isn't on this list, don't assume that I _do_ have it.)
A. J. Luxton
A.R.Yngve
Adam Ek
Adrian Smith
ajay
Alter S. Reiss
Ame
Andrew Plotkin
Andrhia
Andy Brazil
Anna the Piper
Aquila
Arwel Parry
Ben Morris
beth meacham
bryan
Carol
Ccnsul
CHip
Chris
Clan
Connie H.
CosmicDog
DavidS
dcb
Debbie
Dena Shunra
Dirk
Doctor Science
don delny
Earl Cooley III
EClaire
Edward Oleander
eric
ethan
Evan Simpson
Farah
fidelio
Francis D
Garrett Fitzgerald
geekosaur
Glenn Hauman
Graydon
Greg London
harthad
individualfrog
Ingvar M
IWH
j h woodyatt
Jakob
Jason McIntosh
Jen Roth
Jennifer Barber
Jo Walton
Joe Eaton
Joel Polowin
John L
John Chu
John Thornton
Jp
Julie L.
Kate Nepveu
Kayjayoh
Ken Houghton
Ken MacLeod
Kevin Riggle
Kimberley Verburg
Kip W
Laina
Lawrence Watt-Evans
Leah Miller
Leva Cygnet
Linkmeister
Lizzy L
lorax
Madeline F
Marie Brennan
Mark D.
Marna Nightingale
Martin Wisse
mary
Mary Dell
Matt Austern
Matt McIrvin
Matt Stevens
Matthew Austern
Max Kaehn
Melody
Michael I
Michael Walsh
Michael Roberts
Michael Weholt
Michelle
Morry
Mycroft W
mythago
Nancy Lebovitz
Naomi Libicki
NC Hanger
Neil Willcox
Niall McAuley
Nick Caldeorn
Nicole J. LeBoeuf-Little
pat greene
Paul A.
Paul
Pedantic Peasant
Per Chr. J.
R. M. Koske
Ralph Giles
Randolph Fritz
Richard Klin
Rikibeth
rm
Rob Hansen
RobW
Ronit
Rozasharn
Russell Letson
Sarah
Scott Taylor
Scott H
Scott Janssens
Scraps
sherrold
Sica
sm
Soon Lee
Stephen Frug
Steve Taylor
Steve Buchheit
Suin
Summer Storms
Susan Kitchens
Susan
Sylvia
Tazistan Jen
Tim O'Brien
TomB
Tony Zbaraschuk
Velma
VictorS
will shetterly
Xopher
At this point, I'm having trouble figuring out what names still need to be googled for comments... perhaps an updatable list somewhere? Specifically, it would be really nice to have "last update" entries for the member-to-google lists, and for the global "fixing the threads" lists above.
More specifically, it would be nice to have a list of names with "have their comments up to foo/bar/08", and perhaps a separate list "names that need scanning". Nice, but iduno how practical....
EXTREMELY IMPORTANT: The MSN search cache appears to be current and complete. I have tried several lookups and have found entries in the hundreds up to April 30th. That includes several on the chart. 906 comments in Open Thread 105, all there. USE MSN SEARCH.